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Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 8:46 pm
by Mb1973
Hello,

What is the difference between the factory tune for an Accord 2.0t and the base tune in Eco Mode for the Stage 2.0 Dual Tune?


Thanks,


Mb1973

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:22 pm
by KTuner
One is a factory starting point and one is a tune with factory boost targets in ECO mode, as described.

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 11:03 pm
by Mb1973
Thanks for the response. Can you elaborate a bit more on what your tune with factory boost settings improves over the factory tune? Improved hp, mpg, smoothness, shift points on AT, etc? I'm assuming there's a reason you didn't use the factory tune as the base for your dual tune.


Thanks,


Mb1973

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:17 pm
by KTuner
The tunes are described on the vehicle's application page.

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 4:38 pm
by Mb1973
Stage 1 and stage 2 are described on the applications page. I don't see anything described on the base tune used in Stage 2.0

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 6:01 pm
by KTuner
2.0 is described between 2 and 2.1 on the page.

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:19 pm
by Mb1973
Nearly all of the information between 2 and 2.1 is the same information as every other tune listed on the applications page, which is:

Improved throttle response
Removed throttle dampening on low end, better performance off the line
Reduced turbo lag
Improved low-end and midrange torque

The only unique info that pertains to the base tune in Stage 2.0 is: Factory Boost targets in ECO mode

If I am using Stage 2.0, and my car is in ECO mode, what are the differences between the stock Honda tune and the base tune. Is literally the only difference:

Improved throttle response
Removed throttle dampening on low end, better performance off the line
Reduced turbo lag

or is the base tune optimizing other fuel/timing parameters while keeping factory boost levels?

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 4:42 pm
by KTuner
It's a tune. It's not factory. It uses factory boost targets in ECO mode within the tune. That's why it's labeled as a tune with factory boost targets in ECO mode and not a factory tune when in ECO mode. Hopefully that clears you up. We're not going to give you proprietary information on individual changes.

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:03 pm
by Mb1973
Nothing you have said has cleared anything up, and you still haven't answered my question. I never said your Stage 2.0 tune in Eco mode was the same as the factory tune. I'm asking whether Stage 2.0 in Eco mode is functionally equivalent to the Honda factory tune. If they aren't functionally equivalent, what does Stage 2.0 in Eco mode do better? You post specs and dyno charts showing the benefits of Stage 1 and Stage 2 over the Honda factory tune. You don't publish anything for Stage 2.0 tune in Eco mode. I'm not looking for any proprietary information on anything you do. I'm only asking if there are any benefits to Stage 2.0 in Eco mode over the plain old Honda factory tune. If there isn't, great. I just want to have a better idea of what I'm going to be running on my car.

Re: Factory tune vs factory boost targets in Eco Mode

Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:43 pm
by KTuner
Yes, a tune will always have benefits over the factory tune. Public changes are outlined right on the page, as previously discussed. Proprietary ones won't be shared here. There's not much else to say at this point. It's repetitive.